Give The British Hostages A Break

They got out of there in one piece, didn’t they?

31 comments to Give The British Hostages A Break

  • Vince Williams

    Amen.

    Back in the hippie days I lived for a while in one communal household.

    When I moved in, seven or eight people lived there, but over time, attrition reduced the occupants of the house to one lonely soul, me.

    Naturally, I moved into the master bedroom where the king-size water bed was.

    I had never met the landlord, so I didn’t worry about the rent.

    One night, I was in a dead slumber, when suddenly the light was turned on, and I opened my eyes to see two guys standing at the door, one of them pointing a .45 at my head.

    I stuck my hands in the air, and the guy said, “What the hell are you doing in my house?”

    I was 17 years old, and I said, “I’m just a guest here, everyone left.”

    He said, “Put your clothes on, and come with us. We’re going for a ride.”

    Of course, I did what he said. I just knew they were going to kill me and dump my body somewhere.

    So we went for a ride, and they pulled into a liquor store. In those days, you could pull up to the drive-in window, and the cashier would hand you cups with ice and mixers, and do everything but pour the liquor in.

    The terrorists asked me what I wanted to drink.

    I said, “Scotch on the rocks, single-malt, please.”

    I knew I was going to die, but at least I’d go out with style.

  • DAD

    Well Vince….as the saying goes….
    What’s the rest of the story???

  • “Name, rank, and serial number.” Now that, is serious and determined warfare. There is no inbetween once you cross that line.

  • Vince Williams

    O.K. (I just thought we needed some comic relief.)

    The ‘terrorists’ started feeling guilty as we drove around.

    The landlord told me I couldn’t stay at his house any more, but that we’d pick up my meager possessions and they’d take me wherever I wanted to go in town.

    I directed them to another hippie crash house where one of my Deadhead buddies lived. I was welcomed, and I slept on the couch for a few weeks.

    The other ‘terrorist’ gave me his address, and said come over and meet his daughter. So I went to their newly acquired beach house with a big swimming pool.

    Turned out his wife had got control of her quite alive father’s money, and a raging party was going on 24 hours a day. The old man just kind of dithered in the background while the Bacchanalia went on and on.

    It was like a hippie version of the Playboy Mansion.

    And that’s how I got to be who I am today.;-)

  • Vince Williams

    While we’re on the subject, how come no women ever comment here?

  • DAD

    Certainly not an issue of sexual orientation, the lack of female input.

  • “…All the stories have been told
    Of kings and days of old,
    But there’s no England now.
    All the wars that were won and lost
    Somehow don’t seem to matter very much anymore…” The KINKS

    Those cowards (The British Soldiers) are just one more example of the policy of capitulation and appeasement demonstrated by nations of western europe to Islamic Fascism. America, isn’t far behind. There was a day when a British Soldier would “…have done anything…” to resist their captors and would rather have died than be used by the enemy against his country.

    The behavior of the British soldiers and prisioners of war , they were not “…[civilian] hostages..” was a disgrace to their uniform and country. How long did it take for them to “crack” after being deprived of their afternoon tea? Maybe 1/2 a day?

    Mark Steyn, Author of America Alone, writes, “…Europe is the colony now….Europe’s successor population is already in place and “the only question is how bloody the transfer of real estate will be.â€?

    Col. David Hunt has just published his new book, “On The Hunt.” He recently stated on a talk radio program that he belives Iran is a nuclear power in the region and is the unintended winner of the Iraq war. During his forensic analysis of the Iraq war mistakes, he praised former President Lincoln for firing all the generals in the civil war until he found one that could get the job done; General Grant. He, President Lincoln, was criticized for “hiring a drunk.” His response, according to Hunt was, “What ever he’s drinking serve it to the other officers.”

    Many in this country don’t take this war against Islamic Facsism seriously; they belive its not affecting them. They’re still shopping and riding their couch and guzzling their beer without interruption. Well, maybe a commercial or two. There is no sense of obligation or self sacrafice for a greater good. Point is, Americans and congress don’t appear to be willing to defend themselves. They want to believe all we have to do is make nice with the “tolerant” jihadist and all will be Nirvana. WRONG! What price are you willing to pay? What is freedom worth to you?

    The jihadist have made a full scale invasion of western europe and they have now infiltrated every aspect and level of American Society. Now, its just a matter of time.

    Time is a luxury America cannot afford to waste. That time, is over. And, as time goes on, America, to borrow the phrase, Alone, must look itself in the mirror and decide. We must decide, who we are, who we want to be, what do we stand for and what is worth dieing for. Is it, “…one nation, under God, indivisiable, with liberty and justice for all?”

  • DAD

    An argument well constructed. Society unfortunately does not prepare, it simply responds, in knee jerk fashion, to extremes of pressures.

    ‘Tis a waiting game, regrettably, that we play.

  • Vince Williams

    “Certainly not an issue of sexual orientation, the lack of female input.”

    Personally, I think DM scares all the women away.;-)

  • Vince Williams

    I fear corporatism more than I do any so-called “Islamic fascists”.

    The Bush-Cheney junta has enabled corporations to hijack the government of the United States.

    Corporate control of government IS fascism.

    Regarding the ‘glorious’ British Empire, and Merry Olde England– William the Conqueror was a Norman, or Northman– in other words, a Viking Prince who held lands in Normandy.

    England’s royal family are an inbred lot who are more German than English. The House of Windsor was the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, and its name wasn’t changed till 1917.

    Where’s the glory?

    The Romans had a great empire when my ancestors and the Winsdor’s too were uncivilized barbarians.

    As far as I’m concerned, all of England, Scotland, and Wales belongs to my Celtic ancestors. They were the original inhabitants of ‘Great Britain’ and Ireland.

    The Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Danes who are the ancestors of the English were invaders who came to the island from the continent, just as Europeans came to North and South America and stole the ancient tribal lands of the original inhabitants.

  • DAD

    Fascinating process of succession, isn’t it?

    Would love to be around on Dec.31 2999, looking back at history, providing there’s anything left to look back on, or anyone, for that matter.

  • DAD

    “Good night, and good luck!”

  • Vince Williams

    You’re a trip, D__.

  • “American woman, stay away from me…” That’s probably because there’s becomming less and less real men in this country. They’ve all been successfully feminized by 40 years of a radical feminist movement. Little boys are fed Ritalan at the first sign of inteligence and independent free thought. Then, they’re gradually socialized as adrogenous and passive creatures; incapable of a warrior mentality into a critical time when it is most needed.

    I have no problem with woman’s liberation. I do have a problem with their feminist domination and insistence that women should do everything that men do. They seem to have swung into an overemphasis of women’s issues vs family and men.

    Seems to me, feminist think society would be better off without the boy scouts, lower to negative birth rates, and more middle aged lesbian mothers. “Girls just wanna have fun…”

  • DAD

    That women should have the opportunity to attempt to do everything that men do is acceptable providing that the standards for performance are not changed.

    In addition, those little niceties like opening the door, seating in a restaurant, bringing the car around front, holding the umbrella over her head when it rains, while you, yourself get soaked, can be allowed to go to hell in a handbasket in the name of the N.O.W., burnt bras, and equal opportunity.

    For me, I now refuse to walk the dog early in the morning and late at night.

  • N.O.W. women want it both ways DAD.

  • DAD

    They may WANT it……………….

  • Vince Williams

    You guys talk tough, but two things that will never change are who has to buy the rock, and who has to sleep on the couch.

  • DAD

    That’s why prenuptual agreements are created. Any man of substance who marries without one deserves to reap the whirlwind.

  • According to your logic VW, you should leave this country and “return” everything you have acquired here to the native American Indians. And, if you have anything left over give it to the first person you see of black African decent.

    Although I agree with you that corpratisim has become a looming threat to our “free nation” your allusion to “so called Islamic Facist” as less of or not a threat to us, is flawed reasoning. I wouldn’t confuse the two if I were you. Look what happened at Virgina Tech yesterday. That, is lethal terrorisim perpetrated by a gun weilding non U.S. citizen, here on a student visa. Note, he was not here on a business visa. Neither were the 911 jihadists; as you may know, many were here on expired student visas.

    Do you think the jihadist didn’t do that (Virginia Tech Homicidal Suicide? Are you convinced the jihadist aren’t planning such attacks or worse for our free and open border society? Our schools are “SUPPOSED” to be free and open institutions of higher learning and thought. Although you wouldn’t know it in light of recent student attacks on contorversial speakers standing behind their lecterns on their college campuses. The students and their liberal socialist professors are quick to stand and voice their unflinching support for free speech and right of protest, as long as it is exclusively their speech and ideology.

    What will you and those students say when one of our grade schools reap such violence and death? The reports I saw yesterday showed me people grappling more with reality and less with what did Imus repeat or Anna Nichole write in her diary. I’m referring to the potential for another massacre, similar to the jihadist hostage standoff and the murder hundreds of children in Russia a few years ago?

    I think once students in this country get a taste of what they don’t fear they will abandon their high and mighty liberal “holier than thow” rhetoric and protests, and pick up a F _ _ _ _ _ _ Gun!

    I fear liberals who side with our enemies and deliberately denegrate this country in order to advance their own political agenda. I fear the result of that behavior, just as much as I fear the economic violence of greedy global robber barrons. The Jihadists are cunning and know how to leverage our weaknesses to their advantage i.e. Oil and the media.

    Perhpas your ambivelance about corporate vs. Islamic Fascism comes from the nexus of jihadist drug smuggling and corporate crime and money laundering. Their purpose, being the financing, and constrution of more Muslim mosques that teach jihad in America, terrorist sponsored “civil rights” advocates for radical Muslim legal attacks on Americans, government, and businesses(C.A.I.R) i.e. “the flying Imams,” infiltraion of American school book companies publishing pro Muslim religious teaching over any other religion, and calndestine cash funding of jahadist militias and homicide bomber squads in America and the middle east? And, the list goes on.

  • DAD

    It’s an interesting observation in the light of current events. It bears watching as this sorry state of affairs plays on on the world’s stage.

    Pity the victims and their families all, the world over.

  • Correction: Per FOX News online; “He was a loner, and we’re having difficulty finding information about him,” Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said Tuesday morning.

    Cho [the dead shooter] was born in South Korea on Jan. 18, 1984 and entered the United States in 1992 as a child of 8. He was a permanent resident alien, a “green card” holder entitled to most of the legal rights held by U.S. citizens…

    Sources also told the Tribune about the strange inscription on one of Cho’s arms — the words “ISMAIL AX” in red ink.

    The reference may be to the Biblical sacrifice of Abraham, in which God commands the patriarch to sacrifice his own son. Abraham begins to comply, but God intervenes at the last moment to save the boy.

    In the Jewish and Christian traditions, the son is Isaac, father of the Jewish people; in Islam, it is his older half-brother, Ismail, or Ishmael in Hebrew.

    Abraham uses a knife in most versions of the story, but some accounts have him wielding an ax.

    A more obscure reference may be to a passage in the Koran referring to Abraham’s destruction of pagan idols; in some accounts, he uses an ax to do so.”

  • Vince Williams

    DM, I generally don’t read your xenophobic and racist comments, but I saw the nasty lead of your last comment but one, so I read it.

    Let me educate you. My paternal grandfather was half Cherokee. His mother was a medicine woman who lived in her own cabin on his farm. She had visions. So do I. I am a shaman. In Native American cultures, what we call gays were often considered natural-born shamans.

    Her father was a Cherokee farmer in North Carolina whose was driven from his own house and lands by Andrew Jackson’s troops. White settlers moved into his very house and stole his land.

    He was marched on the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma, but escaped in Arkansas.

    How dare you.

    I am also part black. How dare you.

    I am part Welsh, Scots, Irish, English (a Mayflower descendant, there are only something like twenty million of us), German, French, Spanish, and Choctaw also.

    I am proud of all the parts of me.

    I think people like you disgrace this country.

  • Vince Williams

    Just call me a man of many parts.

  • Put it in your peace pipe and smoke it with whatever else you have in there Chief “Man of many Parts.” The fact that I question your criticisims isn’t racist, xeno, or homophobic. Of which, I am neither. If you can’t manage a decent signal fire, it isn’t my doing.

    Don’t anticipate an apology anytime soon, “Chief.” I’ll consider what you have written to be a compliment and succeding in a job well done for now.

    I can’t understand why you keep contradicting yourself about not reading anything I write. Save yourself some grief and don’t read it. I know it disturbs you. That’s good. If you must, just keep to your shamanic trances and halucinagens (the mystical experience of the ignorant) and everything will seem to be alright. Whisteling in the dark helps.

    Oh, by the way, I’m part Sioux Indian and I’m just an ordinary brave. We’re pretty good with a hatchet though! Maybe, you’d rather bury it?

  • Vince Williams

    DM,

    What kind of drugs are you on?

    I can’t help but see your posts when I look at the page, so naturally, some of the sentences register. I meant I just don’t bother to read your extraordinarily long comments (I can’t help but see the shorter ones).

    I think reading your Urantia Book has got you hallucinating.

    I’ve read parts of it, one of those mail-order ministers introduced me to it in 1975.

    I first used hallucinogens after reading Aldous Huxley’s short books The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell.

    If I believed in a Satan, Lord of Hades, I’d say he wrote the Urantia Book.

    I think you need a good-old fashioned sweat lodge.

    Then maybe some Siouxsie and the Banshees.

  • Vince Williams

    Get it?

  • DAD

    Fascinating!!

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