Comments on: Is This The End of John McCain? http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/ Politics 2.0 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:50:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: DAD http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64178 DAD Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:46:07 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64178 My perspective is as always...this is a loaf of bread yet unmade. The new chef has a recipe in its formative stages, whose ingredients have yet to be selected, blended, allowed to rise, placed in the oven, allowed to bake, be cooled, sliced and served. Four years from now we will see what had been set on the table for us and whether or not we will be interested more of the same. You have confidence in his abilities. So be it. The glass is half full. For me, the glass is still empty. The proof will be in the pudding, yet years away. My perspective is as always…this is a loaf of bread yet unmade. The new chef has a recipe in its formative stages, whose ingredients have yet to be selected, blended, allowed to rise, placed in the oven, allowed to bake, be cooled, sliced and served. Four years from now we will see what had been set on the table for us and whether or not we will be interested more of the same. You have confidence in his abilities. So be it. The glass is half full.
For me, the glass is still empty. The proof will be in the pudding, yet years away.

]]> By: DAD http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64156 DAD Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:59:08 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64156 So it would seem...in your frame of reference. That is precisely the message. We have yet but to turn another page. Obviously you have an historical perspective. Give that serious scrutiny as you anticipate future events. After better than 60 years of looking over my shoulder I am not so confident as to ANY administration sufficently learning from past mistakes. So it would seem…in your frame of reference. That is precisely the message. We have yet but to turn another page. Obviously you have an historical perspective. Give that serious scrutiny as you anticipate future events. After better than 60 years of looking over my shoulder I am not so confident as to ANY administration sufficently learning from past mistakes.

]]> By: steve levine http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64155 steve levine Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:36:20 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64155 Nonsense. At 72 and 62, McCain and Bush have already written their life stories. The verdict is in and there's no need to wait Nonsense.

At 72 and 62, McCain and Bush have already written their life stories.

The verdict is in and there’s no need to wait

]]> By: DAD http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64147 DAD Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:43:25 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64147 When the future becomes the past, we will have had the truth of it. Not now...not until then. When the future becomes the past, we will have had the truth of it. Not now…not until then.

]]> By: Steve Levine http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64144 Steve Levine Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:29:43 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64144 I think that sense of entitlement has less to do with their different military backgrounds (Bush has none!) than with their similar family histories: Both were born into privilege, both advanced through life with the help of powerful fathers whose influence smoothed their way and bailed them out of trouble. When you've had everything handed to you, it's easy to understand why you would think it should always be that way...that you're entitled to whatever you want. Bush never developed a sense of personal responsibility; McCain acquired his only after the POW experience. Prior to that, by all accounts he was a spoiled, self-indulgent brat. Bush is totally devoid of character. The old McCain had it, but his arrogance and sense of entitlement changed him when he was denied the presidency in 2000 and again this year. Like a spoiled, immature child, neither man is used to being told "No." And they respond by throwing a temper tantrum -- which McCain is famous for, and which Bush can barely control when confronted with aggressive questioning of his decisions. Neither has the temperament or maturity to be president. I think that sense of entitlement has less to do with their different military backgrounds (Bush has none!) than with their similar family histories:

Both were born into privilege, both advanced through life with the help of powerful fathers whose influence smoothed their way and bailed them out of trouble. When you’ve had everything handed to you, it’s easy to understand why you would think it should always be that way…that you’re entitled to whatever you want.

Bush never developed a sense of personal responsibility; McCain acquired his only after the POW experience. Prior to that, by all accounts he was a spoiled, self-indulgent brat.

Bush is totally devoid of character.

The old McCain had it, but his arrogance and sense of entitlement changed him when he was denied the presidency in 2000 and again this year.

Like a spoiled, immature child, neither man is used to being told “No.” And they respond by throwing a temper tantrum — which McCain is famous for, and which Bush can barely control when confronted with aggressive questioning of his decisions.

Neither has the temperament or maturity to be president.

]]> By: Joshua Rosenstock http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64143 Joshua Rosenstock Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:39:28 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64143 I just find it interesting that with completely different military backgrounds, they have both developed the same sense of entitlement. They are so certain of themselves that they completely flip flop their positions on many issues in a matter of days. An utter lack of fundamental principles is what they both possess, which is why I could never support either one of them. I just find it interesting that with completely different military backgrounds, they have both developed the same sense of entitlement.

They are so certain of themselves that they completely flip flop their positions on many issues in a matter of days. An utter lack of fundamental principles is what they both possess, which is why I could never support either one of them.

]]> By: Steve Levine http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64142 Steve Levine Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:15:38 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64142 Not sure what your last statement means, Josh. I think McCain and W are very much alike: two spoiled children of privilege who were born on third base, but who think they've hit a triple. Two men who are incapable of introspection, who consider themselves infallible and whose pronouncements are so often bathed in the blinding glare of their own certainty. They are frighteningly alike, and we're fortunate that McCain won't be following Bush into the White House. Not sure what your last statement means, Josh.

I think McCain and W are very much alike: two spoiled children of privilege who were born on third base, but who think they’ve hit a triple.

Two men who are incapable of introspection, who consider themselves infallible and whose pronouncements are so often bathed in the blinding glare of their own certainty.

They are frighteningly alike, and we’re fortunate that McCain won’t be following Bush into the White House.

]]> By: Joshua Rosenstock http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64141 Joshua Rosenstock Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:44:15 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64141 That is an interesting contrast to President Bush, who possesses a sense of entitlement despite real military experience. That is an interesting contrast to President Bush, who possesses a sense of entitlement despite real military experience.

]]> By: Steve Levine http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64140 Steve Levine Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:34:44 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64140 No doubt McCain carries emotional as well as physical scars from his imprisonment, but I detect something else that may have resulted from his military experience: An arrogance, a feeling that he's special because of that experience, leading to a sense of entitlement. ("Look what I did for my country; I deserve to be President.") McCain was "cheated" out of the presidency eight years ago by a vicious campaign run by Rove and Bush. This year, when he saw that an upstart Obama, who never served in the military, was leading him in the polls, he reacted like a spoiled child of privilege (which he's been all his life) and ran a desperate, dishonorable campaign. Sadly, what we're seeing is the REAL McCain. No doubt McCain carries emotional as well as physical scars from his imprisonment, but I detect something else that may have resulted from his military experience: An arrogance, a feeling that he’s special because of that experience, leading to a sense of entitlement.
(“Look what I did for my country; I deserve to be President.”)

McCain was “cheated” out of the presidency eight years ago by a vicious campaign run by Rove and Bush. This year, when he saw that an upstart Obama, who never served in the military, was leading him in the polls, he reacted like a spoiled child of privilege (which he’s been all his life) and ran a desperate, dishonorable campaign.

Sadly, what we’re seeing is the REAL McCain.

]]> By: Joshua Rosenstock http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/is-this-the-end-of-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-64139 Joshua Rosenstock Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:34:27 +0000 http://www.washingtonhotlist.com/?p=1062#comment-64139 Yet, people still consider him a maverick - what a joke. Yet, people still consider him a maverick – what a joke.

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